May 12, 2025

Matthew Arnold, founder and principal architect of Boston architectural firm ArnoldAnd

Matthew Arnold, founder and principal architect of Boston architectural firm ArnoldAnd
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Matt Arnold, founder of architectural firm ArnoldAnd, has two decades working as an architect in greater Boston, most notably in a senior leader role.
Matt has earned a reputation for masterfully blending modern design and sustainability features within historic homes and buildings. Modern Luxury Interiors Magazine recently named Matt one of its “Ones to Watch” class of 2025.
He is a member of the BSA’s Residential Design Committee, the Boston Preservation Alliance and LevelUp Mastermind.

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founders and owners. Today's a founder and owner, entrepreneurs, people

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with expertise. But you know, virtually every successful person I've

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ever had a chance to talk to us had some

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form of failure in their lives and careers. I said,

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every week, we all have to get our knees skinned

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once in a while, so I'm driven to keep those

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scrapes from need major surgery. Let's endeavor to learn from

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history so we don't repeat it. I've spent the better

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part of my career equipping businesses to grow from solopreneurs

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to to excuse me, small and medium sized businesses all

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the way up to the fortune fifty. I've seen some

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of those companies wan, and to varying degrees. I've seen

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some fail I've had the opportunity to rub ebols with

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some of the highest performing people around and with some

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who probably should have found other professions. In my own businesses,

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I've had lots of success, but some failures too, and

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I like to think I've learned a lot from those experiences.

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So you're going to hear from me my opinions and insights,

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but more importantly, you're going to hear from our experts,

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and today is no exception. Today my guest is Matthew Arnold,

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founder of architectural architectural firm Arnold, and here's his bio.

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Matt Arnold has worked as an architect in the city

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of Boston and surrounding areas for the past two decades,

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most notably in a senior leader role. I hope I

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said this correctly. Matt at Hasten in Boston's South End.

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During that time, he earned a reputation for work that

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masterfully blended modern design and sustainability features within historic homes

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and buildings, both throughout the city and Greater Boston. So

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much show that when he launched Arnold, and at the

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end of twenty twenty four, Modern Luxury Interiors magazine named

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Matt as part of its ones to Watch Class of

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twenty twenty five, Matt says at Arnold and our mission

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is to create a design with our clients that elevates

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their life, enhances the community, and truly reflects their vision,

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with MABI being the instrument that makes it happen. How

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we get there is through a close collaborative process and

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a real attention to detail, understanding what matters in the

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day to day lives of our clients. Matt's work emphasizes

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a seamless balance between client vision and architectural integrity. He

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places a strong emphasis on collaboration and creativity while ensuring

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that every project meets the highest standards of quality, budget alignment,

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and timely delivery. His approach foster's trust and clear community,

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resulting in spaces that resonate deeply with clients and end

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users alike. Matt's portfolio include successful projects in Boston and

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across New England, where he's brought his understanding of both

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architecture and real estate to life. From conceptual design to

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construction and post docupancy. He guides clients through every stage

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of the process with meticulous attention to detail and an

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unwavering commitment to sustainability.

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And innovation.

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This ethos drives his work and his interactions with clients

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and the broader community. Outside of work, Matt thrives on

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creativity and inspiration. You can often find him biking through

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the city exploring new design ideas, or as any events

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that fuel his passion for architecture and growth. He's a

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member of the BSA's Residential Design Committee, the Boston Preservation Alliance,

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and Level Up Mastermind. Matt received his undergraduate degree from

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New England Institute I Can Say That Institute of Technology

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in Warwick, Rhode Island, and a master's degree from Northeastern.

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He and his wife Hope live with their.

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Son Aidan in the Jamaica Plane section of Boston. As

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it turns out, we're neighbors by only about a few

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miles away. Matt, Welcome to Winning Business Radio.

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Thank you so much for having me. Kevin super excited

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to be here today.

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Very cool, Very cool. I'm excited too. So let's start

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in with some questions. Tell us about Hope and Aiden.

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Well. I met my wife, Hope at Northeastern. She is

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also she was trained as an architect. She works at

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an architecture firm, but she is actually not a practicing architect.

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She works for a very interesting architecture firm in the

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South End called Mass Design Group, who's a nonprofit architecture firm,

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and she works in their communications and philanthropy team, if

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I can say that. So it's kind of cool because

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you know, we both speak the same lingo, we both

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speak the same language, but she operates in a very

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different architectural world than I do on a day to

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day basis. So I find that pretty intriguing. You know,

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we met at Northeastern, We've been together for quite a

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long time, and Aiden is our son. Aiden is twelve

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weeks old.

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Wow wow.

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Become to our first child into the world on February

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fifteenth of this year. So you know, this has been

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a year of change from my big time change.

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Well, very exciting. What's your best part of being a

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dad so far?

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Oh? Man? I mean, like he is literally, you know,

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this week last week, starting to react when I when

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he sees me, when I walk into the room, when

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I pop into his face, the smile, the reaction is

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all new. So he's actually acknowledging me. So I got

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to say, you know, the first few weeks, you're just

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keeping the baby alive. Right, I mean, everybody whose parents knows.

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But the moment, you know, to see the personality start

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to kind of sparkle in his eyes and come out

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has been pretty wild. And I just assume this is

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going to, you know, exponentially grow as he gets older

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and older.

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So, in the words of ron bergend coming a pretty

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big deal at least at least as far as he's concerned.

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Yeah, exactly, I'm half his world, right.

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That's right? All right?

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So you and I are neighbors, not by very far.

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But it gets even better because I grew up in Midfield,

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which is the next town two towns away from Yeah,

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two towns away, two towns from Medway, where you grew up.

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Tell us about Medway and what it was like to

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grow up there Medway.

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You know, grew up in Medway, small town, had a

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lot of fun there, had a great community of friends

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and people around us. You know, we lived on a

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small street, had a couple of friends right on the street.

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You know, I spent my life on two wheels really,

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whether it was a bicycle, I guess, like eight wheels

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because of roller blades, or a dirt bike. And you know,

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I my dad would say, like you would leave at

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the crack of dawn and I would tell you be

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home by dark, and you know, around dark, you know,

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dusk time. He'd be out up Matthew and he'd hear

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me off of the distance, kind of responding back, and

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he said, I've come back, skinned head to toe with dirt, scrapes, bumps,

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but loving life. You know, I love being on two wheels,

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the bicycle and the dirt bike. You know. It was again,

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it was a very small community. You know. We lived

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in an old house that we fixed up. Throughout my

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kind of entire childhood, it was always a working progress

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with my dad. He let me do a lot of

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the work as well, and I just it was a

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good place to grow up. And I was always connected

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to Boston and close to Boston, so Boston was always

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like the draw. Oh my god, Boston. We would take

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the commuter rail in from Franklin with our bikes and

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ride around for the entire day in the city and

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then take the commuter at home, and that, you know,

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that was about the coolest thing ever. So, you know,

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I was always really really attracted to the city. I

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you know, I kind of assumed I would end up

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here one day. And you know I have, which is

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which is kind of exciting for me.

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So I'm gonna get into the Lego story in a second.

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But would you be drawn to that architecture even then?

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I think so. I was always like very intrigued by

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the kind of urban environment. You know. Again, Midway was

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very nice, very pretty. You know, I had great neighborhoods.

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But you know, it didn't it didn't spark the interest

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like the city. It didn't absorb or kind of heighten

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all of my senses like a city did. When we

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got off that train in South Stasian or back Bay,

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like I felt very at home, it felt very cool.

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I was very interested, and I really just never wanted

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to lead it. You know. It was really something that

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drew me to towards it.

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So I understand that at a very young age, I

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don't know exactly the age you'll tell us, but that

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you were into design and architecture, even if you didn't

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call it that, because you were into legos and you

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built a lot of things. Tell us about that and

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include your Lego city in the story.

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Yeah, my Lego city, yeh. From a very young age,

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and I was attracted to legos. I you know. Honestly,

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I don't even know how I got connected to Legos.

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I must have been through my father, and my dad says,

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you know, every year all I wanted was legos, just

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legos for Christmas, Legos for my birthday. And I would

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build the legos to the thing on the box and

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then you know, kind of dismantle it and repurpose the

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pieces for my own city. Now, we lived in this

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older home in Medway, had a lot of rooms and stuff.

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So I had my bedroom and then I had a

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Lego room, which I don't know if he gave me

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this room or I just like took it over, or

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we didn't have a ton of stuff in this house,

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so those space and I just slowly, over the years

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started to amass the city. And again I never thought

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anything of it as a kid. My dad really didn't

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think anything of it until people, his friends and stuff

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literally would say like, what is this kid doing here?

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And you know, my dad started to take My dad

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was big into videoographer VHS tapes, so he started to

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take video of me taking him on an architectural tour

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of my Lego city. Now was totally instinctual. I had

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no clue what I was doing. And you know, at

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some point my dad recognized this through his friends and

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so forth, kind of bringing it up, and so I

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think he leaned into it a bit by videotaping me

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and asking me to tell him what was going on. So,

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you know, I don't think it was fully aware of

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what he was doing, but he was subconsciously aware of

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like bringing out a skill that I had that I

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didn't even know I had, and I really loved it.

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I mean, I still actually have the legos today. I

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have a huge tub of legos in the basement that

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I mean, some of these legos are probably from you know,

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the early eighties, and I don't even know honestly what

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legos are like today, but I know for me, those

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those were like the building blocks, literal building blocks of

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my life. In any ways, you know a.

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Lot of young adults are into legos. They build these

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massive projects. Our twenty eight year old has built the

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London It's a big ben, right, She's built some Star

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Wars stuff, some Harry Potter stuff. It's really intricate. I mean,

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it takes a lot interesting and she has a process.

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She spreads it all out into different containers, you know,

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But uh, so I can see it.

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I can see it.

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So you worked even when you were young, I don't

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know how old again, but on small projects during school

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breaks with your general contractor stepdad, right, tell us about that.

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That's correct. Yeah, my stepfather ran a kind of a

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small kind of contracted company did like a lot of painting.

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Was the company was sale painting actually now that they

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think of it. But he was in we were living

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in Bellingham at the time. My mother and my stepfather

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lived in Bellingham. My father had the house in Medway

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and I just happened to kind of go to the

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Medway schools. But yeah, you know my stepfather, I needed

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a job, you know, and he he somehow, some ways

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said hey, you know, come work with me. I'll give

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you some work. And then he started to kind of

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like lend me out to his friends in a way like, Hey,

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you know this guy, Bob, he's building this thing. He

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needs some help, want to go work.

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What you should know is he was paying you whatever

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ten bucks an hours building you out at twenty probably right.

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Yeah, he was entrepreneur in his own way. Right. So

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I ended up just kind of going through a whole

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bunch of different trades from painting to framing to tile work,

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working in people's homes, bathrooms, commercial spaces. I ended up

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getting a lot of different perspective of the construction world.

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And it was really just because, you know, somebody would

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have something and I would want to the next person

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and the next person. So there was no rhyme or

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reason to it all. But you know, in hindsight, it

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just kind of gave me this. I touched a bunch

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of different things, right, and it gave me some literal

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knowledge about Like I could speak to subcontractors and say, Okay,

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you know, I might not be an expert in what

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you do because you're the subcontractor, but I've kind of

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done this at one point in my life, so I

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have a different communication structure with you. I have a

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different level of respect with you than somebody who, you know,

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maybe hasn't had the opportunity to do this.

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When did you know that you wanted to actually be

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an architect? Oh?

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Man, I you know, I think I went all through

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high school and everything and a guidance counsel. It was

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coming to the end of high school. I really did

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not know what to do. So many people, you know,

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knew what they're going to do, knew where they were

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going to go to college. It was kind of all

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mapped out. I thought I was just going to work

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in the trades. But my parents, you know, my stepfather

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and my father and my mother, you know, they all

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encouraged me to, you know, not do something so physical.

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You know, my stepfather had a lot of physical issues,

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I think because of some of the work, and a

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lot of his friends had back knee pain. You know,

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they they knew that I should do something behind a

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desk because our body couldn't do this for forty years.

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So I really had a high school guidance counselor that

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kind of made the recommendation. And that was the start

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of it.

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Pretty cool.

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All right, we're going to take our first break, so

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We're back with Matthew Arnold, founder and principal architect of

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Arnold and we'll get to that name in a moment.

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When did you decide you wanted to attend New England

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Institute of Technology.

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So the guidance counselor who had given me some recommendations

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on hey, you should really think about architecture. I believe

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he went to New England Tech and so he kind

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of turned me on to the school. You know, I went.

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I went and toward a few other schools, but there

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was something about their approach, their program. It was a

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little bit more technical in nature. It was kind of

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an architectural engineering degree in many ways, and I kind

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of gravitated towards that kind of tectonic nature of it.

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Like we took some structures classes, we did more engineering things,

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and I think a lot of architecture schools do, and

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so I just kind of gravitated toward that because it

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felt I think, more connected to you know, the trades,

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which is where I had come from. So I think

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that's yeah, it kind of drew me in and ended

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up I ended up getting there really loving it right

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from the get go, doing very well, winning a lot

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of awards, and just getting a very high GPA. And

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it was very very clear, very early on, like this

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was it. It just clicked. It just clicked way more

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than high school ever clicked for me. You know, I

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was an okay student high school, but it wasn't I

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wasn't an inspiring student. And the minute I found architecture,

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I think, you know, after that first semester, I was like, Okay,

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this is it. I'm in. I like this and I

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just haven't looked back, you know.

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And it wasn't much later, but a little later when

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you decided to get your masters. That was behind that decision.

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Yeah, So I mean I graduated from New England Tech.

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You know, I in order to become a registered architect,

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you needed a master's degree from accredited school. You know.

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I didn't really realize that when I went into undergraduate

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and so I started saying, Okay, well I think I

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want to do this. I you know, I need to

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be an architect. I want to be registered. So I

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decided to go back to grad school. And where better

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to go than my favorite city, Boston, And you know,

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found Northeastern. They had a very early program for me,

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and I just I went, I said, this is it.

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I love it, and I dove in there head first,

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kind of the same thing, did really well and have

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been in the community ever since.

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So and it's a Master in architecture, correct.

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Yes, Masters in architecture. Yeah.

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So during I know there's some overlap, but you've had

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multiple internships from about four to twenty ten, some of

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which again overlapped with the career or professional positions. Tell

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us about some of those and maybe some of the

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lessons you learned along the way.

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Well, one of the earlier on internships I had was

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working at an engineering firm and I thought, you know,

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maybe I wanted to be an engineer. Actually I kind

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of deviated from my dream a little bit. You know,

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I knew I wanted to be an architect young on,

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and I said, okay, well maybe I go this engineering route. Well,

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I worked at an engineering firm, you know, good firm,

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local firm, great people. But I was there for about

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six months and I was like, this is not for me.

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It was you know, I wanted that it wasn't scratching

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my creative itch, right. I liked the technical aspect of

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the engineering, but it didn't have the creativity driving the results, right.

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It was more you know, the mathematical aspects of driving

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results in the engineering. So that was definitely an early

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lesson like, hey, don't deviate, make sure you stick with

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your dream, make sure this internship fits in where you

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want to go. And then after that, I worked at

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a small architecture firm, and you know, immediately again knew, okay,

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this is yes, this is more akin to what I want.

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And as I worked my way through different firms, I

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definitely learned different aspects. You know. I worked at some

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firms that kind of focused more on institutional work, and

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then I got to work at some firms that focused

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a little bit more on the residential hospitality side, and

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I think you know, early on I realized like I'm

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more of a kind of residential hospitality architect than an

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institutional you know, campus architect, which I mean the fantastic

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architects and they're very well needed, but me personally, I

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connected with the more kind of domestic nature of architecture

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and that could be residential or hospitality.

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So your first professional position, it seems, was at MDA

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Design Center. We had that role for about seven years.

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Tell us about that role and some of the key

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lessons learned there.

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So that was actually my own side hustle.

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Yes, DA Lighting, I could have seen that, Okay, yeah.

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Yes, yes, so I you know, again when I am.

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Big national, international firm then right.

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On many competitions because of my stepfather and his community

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of friends. Okay, at very young age, I started my

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own business in a way.

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That makes sense with the timeline that I saw.

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Okay, yes, moonlighting. You know, as under the umbrella of MDA,

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I probably did about one hundred and fifty projects over

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the course of however many years. But you know, as

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friends would come to me and say, hey, I have

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a I have a deck. An addition, I have a kitchen.

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Do you want to design? Sure? You know, I was

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kind of bullish about it. I just took chances that,

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you know, in hindsight, maybe a little bit risky in

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terms of not knowing what I was really doing. But

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I learned a ton. I did make some mistakes. Luckily

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they were I was working with people who were understanding

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and they all had you know, I was working for

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folks who had a personal interest in me succeeding, so

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they weren't going to bury me if I did something wrong.

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And I definitely remember a few phone calls that were like,

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don't do that again, kid, you know, but you know,

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you learn, you got to learn from your mistakes, and

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there's no better way, and you know, you want to

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make sure you do it people that care about you

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and who have an interest in seeing you succeed. But yeah,

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I think there's no better lesson than doing right.

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So as an architect and to be licensed, yes, and

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we're back those years.

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No, I was not. So I was under a certain

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threshold of sizeive project you do not need to be licensed.

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So I operated underneath that threshold and then you know,

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I got licensed much later in life. But yeah, I

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kind of found that little bit of a loophole.

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Okay, then hasten, Am I saying that correctly?

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Hasseine? Yes, it's an off and no, people say Haysten

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a lot.

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Okay, good, at least I'm not alone.

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How did you get that role?

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I think I would answer, but I want people to hear.

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David Hassen, the founding principal and still principal there today,

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was my professor in school at Northeastern. He was a

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professor of housing. Him and I just connected and clicked.

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I really loved his class, did well in his class.

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We just we just hit it off. And at the

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end of it, we were going into a summer and

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he said, hey, do you want to do an internship.

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I was like, yes, I do. And I went there

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and you know, the summer of two thousand nine, and

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I just like kind of never left, you know, two

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thousand and nine. It wasn't a ton going on in

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the architecture building worlds, you know. But yeah, I was

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very lucky to have that position, and I found myself there.

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When I graduated school, he kind of came back and said, hey,

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you know, would you like to come and you know,

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work here as a full time professional? And I said absolutely.

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I was very happy that he kind of asked me

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to do that.

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So your license coincided with the role it has seen.

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Yeah, I got license a few years after I started

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has seen. You have to go through you know, some

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you have to do a certain amount of hours in

464
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.720
a firm and a document, all of that right under

465
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:52.279
the IDP and then you sit for six exams, which

466
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.160
is a bit it's treacherous. You know, it's not an

467
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.640
easy process. So I did that. Well, it has seen.

468
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:02.000
You know, the firm was David in the firm were

469
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.000
proponents of it. They were very much encouraging of doing it.

470
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.400
There was you know, financial reimbursement through it because the

471
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.559
tests are they're not cheap. But they were very much

472
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.759
encouraging me, like, hey, if you want to be a

473
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.680
practitioner in this world, you should carry a license, whether

474
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.000
you use it or not, you know.

475
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.359
And what are some of the I was going to

476
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.319
qualify it. I won't. I won't qualify it. What are

477
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:25.079
some of the projects you worked on.

478
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:31.119
At hassine So I did a number. I worked a

479
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:36.559
lot in their hospitality world. Hasscene has been responsible for

480
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.599
a number of restaurants in retail establishments around the South

481
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:47.480
End including like Sure Leave restaurant, Black Lamb Glasshouse did

482
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.200
some of the early flower bakeries for Joe and Chang

483
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:54.839
in the South End, and so I got the pleasure

484
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.640
of working on a lot of those projects at Hassin.

485
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.960
I also everybody that has seen kind of works on

486
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.119
private residential in some way or another because it's a

487
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.640
little bit of their bread and butter. And so I

488
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.839
also had the opportunity to do some very nice private

489
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:11.519
residential projects in the city.

490
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:16.279
So, because this audience is at least nationwide, there are

491
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.920
some out of the country listeners and viewers as well.

492
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:23.160
Tell describe the South End in terms of its architecture.

493
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.559
Ah, So the South End is a good point. South

494
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.640
End is a great neighborhood in the city of Boston

495
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.440
that is all brownstones. It's four or five story buildings.

496
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.920
It's a grid and it's created of these bow front

497
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.799
brick brownstones that create all of these great streets, and

498
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.359
in different parts the buildings pull back to create these

499
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.880
squares with fountains. It's a really really fun place. If

500
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.480
anybody knows Back Bay in Boston, South End is kind

501
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.640
of like the hipper version of Back Bay, a little smaller,

502
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.599
little more grungy, not quite as ordinate, but very very

503
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.720
kind of cool and hip. It's a really beautiful and

504
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.960
a very classic Boston neighborhood. Yeah, it's really fun being

505
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:06.799
able to work there.

506
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.200
If you see not the gritty movie like gon Girl

507
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.799
or you know, I think that's the one, you know,

508
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:17.319
Met and Ben, but if you see movies that are

509
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:21.119
built in the neighborhoods, that's what you're going to see,

510
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:24.279
right that iconic. As you said, the bow Front, I

511
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:25.759
didn't know what to call it that, but it makes sense.

512
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:29.839
The bow Front Brownstones. Yeah, so you'd work on a

513
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.680
lot of those, and a lot of those were residences. Yes,

514
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.400
yea in a what would look like a multi family

515
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.880
unit but it's or building, but they're really residences exactly.

516
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.000
Yeah. Some were multi family where we did two or

517
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.279
three units in them, and some were you know, five

518
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.680
floor townhouses that were one resident. I mean, pretty spectacular

519
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.039
projects that we were able to do for some really

520
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.799
fantastic clients in the city. I mean, it was it

521
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:56.799
was really kind of a privilege to do some of

522
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:57.359
that work.

523
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.240
Were some of the other than storic aspect, We'll get

524
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.920
to that in a minute too, But what were some

525
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.519
of the challenges or are some of the challenges in

526
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.039
working with a building like.

527
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.160
That, Oh man, I mean construction wise, some of those

528
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.119
buildings were in some massive disrepair. We would have to

529
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.759
kind of hollow out the inside of the building and

530
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.160
you'd leave the brickshell and frame, you know, new floor

531
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.240
systems in there. I mean sometimes we'd walk in and

532
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.000
you could look up, you know, forty feet into the air.

533
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:28.599
It was quite wild. And the contractors that did that

534
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.079
kind of work were literally surgeons. You know.

535
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.839
There were lots of stairways, right, lots of staircases, sometimes elevators,

536
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.039
I imagine.

537
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.720
Most of the time. I think almost every private residential

538
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.240
project we did at some sort of elevator. Yeah, but

539
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.880
the stairs become this really beautiful element within the home.

540
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.839
And it's not a staircase like you think. Like, these

541
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.559
were really heavily designed, beautiful elements that connected multiple floors.

542
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.559
I've been in a couple, not many, but the couple

543
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.920
that I've been in were just gorgeous. It was clear

544
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.079
that people invested a lot.

545
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.000
You know, yes, yes, a lot of time and energy.

546
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.079
All Right, it is almost the bottom of the hour,

547
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.839
So we'll take our break right here. We'll be back

548
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.200
in another minute with Matthew Arnold.

549
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:18.319
Thank you.

550
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569
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.079
We're back with Matthew Arnold, founder and principal architect of

570
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.880
Arnold and Okay. Now the big question, and I think

571
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.480
the I mean, I love this stuff. But the more

572
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.640
fun of the interview is when and why did you

573
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.039
decide to go on your own.

574
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.440
That's a great question. So I technically started my own

575
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.519
business June first of twenty twenty four. So my business

576
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.839
is coming up on a one year anniversary in about

577
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.440
a couple of weeks, two weeks. That week's thank you.

578
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:57.799
I'm very excited. You know. I started my own practice

579
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.400
because I had the realization that I needed to live

580
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.319
out my own dream. And I had, you know, from

581
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.759
the childhood I had growing up, I had always thought

582
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.480
I would be my own boss, that I would open

583
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.359
my own firm, that I would be a kind of

584
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.960
principal architect in many ways.

585
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:17.960
Well, you were with Lego City.

586
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.480
I mean I was with Lego City, and I was

587
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:22.440
with NDA as well. You know, it was kind of

588
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.400
already running my own show on the side, and and

589
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.759
I loved the kind of business aspect. I loved the

590
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.920
kind of thrill of running a firm, right. You know,

591
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.640
I've had people say to me, oh, man, you must

592
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.440
like have you know, so much anxiety about what's coming next.

593
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.799
I actually feel more calm now that I'm on my

594
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.960
own than I actually did working for somebody else. I

595
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.359
feel actually less anxiety and surprisingly enough, all.

596
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:48.759
Right, so I'm gonna have a phone with this question

597
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.240
in spite of the fact that we're not questioned, but

598
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:52.240
you're you know where I'm going right?

599
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:53.079
Uh?

600
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:53.880
All right?

601
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.400
So you came home and said I'm starting a firm,

602
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.000
and she said, well guess what.

603
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.599
Yes, that did happened. I gave my notice on a

604
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.680
Thursday Saturday night. She came home and said I need

605
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.720
to talk to you. I was like, okay, and she

606
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.599
handed me a pregnancy test, and.

607
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.559
So there's some risk there. There's maybe a little bit

608
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:14.640
of fear. But tell us about it.

609
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.480
Oh man, Yeah, I mean she said, we're not changing

610
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.400
any of your plans. You know, obviously we knew this

611
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.759
was possible. We had been talking about starting a family

612
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.039
for a while. We knew it was possible. And you know,

613
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.319
she honestly said, are you freaking out? And I could

614
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.880
honestly say to her, no, I really didn't feel like

615
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:38.160
I was freaking out. And you know, I think, yeah,

616
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.559
first might have a lot of things might have rans

617
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.200
in my head, but this past year actually being my

618
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.440
own boss in many ways, working out of the house.

619
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.119
Having flexibility has been the one of the greatest gifts

620
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.839
I've had in a long time. I didn't even realize

621
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:56.160
how much flexibility would work in my favor right now

622
00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.480
with doctor's appointments prior to the birth, and now I'm

623
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.319
home every day and I get to interact with them,

624
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.279
you know, in little moments throughout the day that I

625
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.960
just I couldn't imagine having to report to an office

626
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.720
from nine to five right now and miss all the

627
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.880
things that I see throughout the day. That's really it's

628
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.720
like one of those It's just something I just wasn't

629
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.839
thinking about and wasn't aware of. But it's been a

630
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.799
gift to be home and to be available and have

631
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.640
the flexibility to you know, be with and help my

632
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.160
family in ways that I didn't even know I was

633
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.680
going to need to. So it's pretty cool.

634
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.039
How big is your workspace and what kind of setup

635
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:34.400
do you need?

636
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.599
So you're looking at the workspace. My wife's workspace is

637
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.960
kind of behind us, although right now that's a little

638
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.720
on hold. She's not doing a who lot of work

639
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.160
from home. She has a full time job, which is

640
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.720
slightly different. But I really just work at my desk here.

641
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.319
I have a couple of monitors. I have my laptop,

642
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:56.559
and you know, through mediums like this and Zoom and

643
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.839
Google Drive. And it's amazing how I can run a

644
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.599
practice with so little infrastructure. Right, Like, it's I don't

645
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.880
have to have clients in my house. I travel to

646
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.559
their house. I get samples shipped to me into them.

647
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.320
I mean, the post COVID the world, it was like

648
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.239
it was set up for me to do this, and

649
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.320
I didn't know all of that until I fumbled my

650
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.880
way into all this to say, Okay, well I have

651
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.039
to do this. How am I going to do this?

652
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.920
I used to do it this way, but now I can't.

653
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:27.679
So now I'm going to do it this way. And

654
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.000
I have found my way through every single little challenge

655
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.280
there has been. It's just all sitting right in front

656
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:35.239
of me. It's pretty amazing.

657
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.920
Well, I understand you're still really connected to the firm,

658
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.280
to the old firm, and you're still family.

659
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.159
I do. Yeah, Oh, they're always going to be my family.

660
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.920
I was with them last week. We go for beers,

661
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.719
I go for lunch with David, like I spent fifteen

662
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.119
years with these people. I mean, you don't just turn

663
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.840
that off, right, They some of them are a number

664
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.239
of them are JP residents live. Well, I'll see about

665
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.159
the whole foods or yeah, we're walking to get ice

666
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:05.920
cream or something.

667
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.119
So yeah, JP licks by the way to say that.

668
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.119
Yes, absolutely shot, Yes, it's pretty cool.

669
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.239
It's some mad revenue for that. Shout up. You still

670
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.039
use paper and table or is it all digital?

671
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.639
It's all digital? Yeah I was. I never had the

672
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.800
strongest hand in terms of hand sketching. Like some of

673
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.800
the you know gentlemen in the office, the older gentleman

674
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.119
in the office, they came from that they can sit

675
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.199
down with a piece of paper and create on a

676
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.760
on a piece of paper that I just could never do.

677
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.840
And now you know, everything is shared digitally, PDFs, zoom, meetings.

678
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.599
People want that digital kind of footprint on everything. So yeah,

679
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.039
I'll do some sketching by hand when I'm really trying

680
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.519
to think through a problem. But most everything is kind

681
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:53.719
of digital these days.

682
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.599
Is there a tool you use other than zoom and

683
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:57.960
PDFs to collaborate?

684
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.760
A Google Drive and all the Google suites is a

685
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.320
very helpful one between the Google docs and all that stuff.

686
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.320
I didn't know if there was a proprietary, like industry

687
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:11.480
specific tool.

688
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.960
No, nope, nope, No, it's you know, communication, email and

689
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.000
zoom is pretty much how it goes. Yeah, it works

690
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:19.480
very well.

691
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.039
So tell us what was behind the Arnold and name.

692
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.199
Yeah, so, you know, when I first started thinking about

693
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.679
what I was going to call, this actually operated from

694
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.960
June until like the beginning of this year with no name.

695
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.719
People were like, what's your company name? I was like,

696
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.119
I don't know, I don't even have one. I was

697
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.320
still getting business, I was still doing work. I was

698
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.559
cranking away, and it gave me a little bit of

699
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.199
time to kind of reflect on what do I want?

700
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.880
What do I want this to be. So many people

701
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.239
when I started this said what's your five bear plan?

702
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.079
And I said, my five year plan is to not

703
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.800
have a five year plan because I didn't know right,

704
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.679
I needed some time to digest. So, you know, it

705
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.880
seemed obvious at first, like okay, I let's call it

706
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.280
Matt Arnold Architects. But you know, I really think of

707
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.880
myself as more than an architect. I really didn't want to,

708
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.920
you know, prescribe my future before it had even begun.

709
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:17.920
So working with my design partner, Agency Bell, you know,

710
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.800
we started to think about, well, how how do we

711
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.599
build something that can evolve as I evolve as a

712
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.599
as a person and a professional. And so it was,

713
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.840
you know, originally thinking of like Arnold and architecture instead

714
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.119
of like Arnold Architects. It's about Matthew Arnold and his

715
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.559
relationship to architecture. And but the more we thought about it,

716
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.079
we thought, well, what if we dropped the architecture which

717
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.679
is Arnold and and the and becomes like the open

718
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:49.920
ended book for and architecture and development and design and living.

719
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.559
And you know, it created this ability to allow Arnold

720
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.400
and to be what it needed to be when it

721
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.719
needed to be it right, and and the and could

722
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.920
be a client, it could be a collaborator, it could

723
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.880
be a different project type that I'm not even thinking

724
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.320
of yet. And you know, the thing that excites me

725
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.079
the most right now is like the unknown. I love

726
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.199
the fact that I'm building a brand and a business

727
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.159
that is adaptable to this crazy world we live in.

728
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.760
Right And of course I still am an architect, and

729
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.719
I will be an architect forever, but that doesn't mean

730
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.039
I need to practice architecture the same way I have

731
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.639
for the last fifteen years, Right, the built environment is

732
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.000
evolving at such a different pace that I think architects

733
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.159
need to be more open minded about how we interact

734
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.679
with the world. And I'm very interested in like educating

735
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.079
the world about architecture. One of my big pet peeves

736
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.760
about myself an architects is that everybody like interacts with

737
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.239
the built environment everywhere every single day, but so you.

738
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.719
But most of the public knows so little about architecture

739
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.679
because architects are not good about talking about architecture, right, Like,

740
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.280
it's up to architects to educate the world and tell

741
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.599
them why do things look the way they do? Why

742
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.920
do we interact with things the way they do? You know?

743
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.920
I mean it's like it's on us. Let's educate the world. Guys,

744
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.159
Like I want to get out there, I want to

745
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.639
educate people. I want to have fun with it. Right,

746
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.920
The process for me is just as important as the product.

747
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.159
Like if I'm not having fun with my clients, there's

748
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.480
no point. Right. So again, kind of back to the brand,

749
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.800
Like the brand is really meant to be able to

750
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.159
evolve as I evolve, as I grow as a professional.

751
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.039
I will always be a feed for service architect in

752
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.199
many ways, but I really really hope to do a

753
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.960
whole lot more, as you know, my next twenty thirty

754
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.440
years roll on, And I think that's very exciting.

755
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.159
Yeah, all right, quick shout out to Laura Souder, who

756
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.760
spent a guest on the show Way Agency Bell should

757
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.320
just work. But here's a point that I think you

758
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.679
want to highlight. You design really for the way people live, right,

759
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.639
not just so what does that look like?

760
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.360
What does that? How does that play out?

761
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:18.199
So it's a good question. Yeah, you know, some today

762
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.800
is such a complicated world with homes, right, there are

763
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.639
so many older style homes that we all try to

764
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.960
force our life into. But if you hire an architect,

765
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.440
and you know, you work with somebody like myself, you

766
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.480
actually get to reimagine, like how can I manipulate this

767
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.719
current home to better my life, to enhance my life.

768
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.400
So really understanding how somebody wants to live compared to

769
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:48.079
how they are living is a really important thing, right,

770
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.719
Like just because you get up every day and you

771
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:54.559
have this routine in your current home doesn't mean you

772
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.840
need to have that same routine in a new home.

773
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.480
So like, put some imagination together, put some imagination goggles.

774
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.920
Let's think about what would your ideal day look like,

775
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.719
how would that feel? How would that function? How would

776
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.079
you move through the home? What's the first thing you're

777
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:11.119
going to interact with you wake up? Where do you

778
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.199
want your bedroom? How do you want your kitchen to

779
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:16.039
be placed in the home. So, you know, I'm really

780
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.039
able to kind of go down this exploratory phase with

781
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.400
my clients and really dream with them a little bit.

782
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.679
And through the process of design and three D visualization

783
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.679
tools we have now, I can really show clients like, hey,

784
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:31.960
this is what it could feel like to be in

785
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.800
this home. Does this feel like something that interests you?

786
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.239
And you know, through an iterative process, it takes time.

787
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.119
It's not a one and done thing. It takes months sometimes,

788
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.440
but we really together kind of get to explore how

789
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.920
one could live in a home or a space and

790
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:51.199
make that space enhance your life on a daily basis

791
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.199
compared to being a hindrance. You know, I mean there's

792
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.000
so many there's so much built environment that was built

793
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.760
in the fifties and sixties. I don't live the same

794
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.880
way we did it in the fifties and sixties. You know,

795
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:05.800
let's update that and that doesn't have to mean tearing

796
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.519
down every single home, but especially in New England. Here

797
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.360
the building stock is fantastic, Great Bones has such an

798
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.880
ability to transform, and through that transformation you could transform

799
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.880
your life. I live in a space that I designed myself,

800
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.239
and it has transformed my life because I got to

801
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:26.239
make the decisions. I really think. You know something David

802
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.280
has seen you say, like every architect should live in

803
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.519
a space they designed for themselves, and boys, he right.

804
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:34.840
Is it a single family?

805
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.960
It is a I live on the top floor of

806
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:43.400
a triple decker JP. Yep. And so we bought this place.

807
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.480
It was not in good shape, and I gutted it

808
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.079
and just redid the whole thing. It was quite a process.

809
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.159
Another thing that's pretty foreign to people outside of New England.

810
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:54.039
What was the year of.

811
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.159
Construction nineteen oh two?

812
00:42:59.559 --> 00:42:59.880
Wow?

813
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.440
Yeah, our house in Rosendale built in nineteen thirty five.

814
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.320
So yeah, yeah, well farther outbound than you, you know. Yes,

815
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.960
so it's a difference.

816
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.440
Yep, that's true. That's very true.

817
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:10.960
All right.

818
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.039
Talk about one of your what you would call your

819
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.679
signature one of your signature Arnold and projects, and that's

820
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.079
the Charles Cove House in Dover, mass which is one

821
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.000
town over from where I grew up Midfield and where

822
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.199
my mother taught high school for many years. But that

823
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.440
house was built in I think eighteen sixty eight, right.

824
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.000
It's undergone a number of additions and changes over the years.

825
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.960
I think the most recent was in the sixties. Tell

826
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.400
us about that project and why it's a it's an

827
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.760
Arnold and signature project.

828
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.760
So, I mean that project is a very cool project. It's,

829
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.039
like you said, the eighteen sixties, so it has a

830
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.719
lot of history and in New England, context and history

831
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.639
is very important. So you know, through that project, we

832
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.280
the clients, you know, one of the clients. Things clients

833
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:58.559
said to me early on is like, we want to

834
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.039
be good shepherds of this house. We need to Yeah,

835
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.119
very cool. We need to undo some of the things

836
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.360
that they did in the sixties because they don't jibe

837
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.079
with how we live today. But still we need to

838
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.920
be respectful of this eighteen sixties house because it needs

839
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:14.159
to stand as it did all the way back then.

840
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.480
So is it a sorry quick place direction?

841
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.199
Is it a listed historical property?

842
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.360
It's technically not registered, although it does have its plaque

843
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.639
on it. But yeah, it's actually not on the historic register.

844
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.400
I think because it had the additions later, and it's leway.

845
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.559
It does, Yes, it does. But luckily these clients, you know,

846
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.920
saying they want to be good stewarts from the get

847
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.039
go that was a goal. We were able to preserve

848
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:45.480
the kind of colonial symmetrical nature of the home while

849
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.400
the kind of additions kind of chart on on the side.

850
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.159
And so from the street it still looks like a

851
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.239
fairly kind of smallish, modest home. And as you kind

852
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.400
of go around it, you can see how we've added

853
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.920
on in a very respectful way. You know, it's it's

854
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:05.320
a really interesting project because you're we're taking this modern

855
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.719
family off, husband and wife, two kids, two boys. You know,

856
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.760
they like sports, they like activities, and they want to

857
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.800
live a kind of modern lifestyle in this historic home.

858
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:20.800
So again, how do you do that in the historic home.

859
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.360
We've kind of preserved some of the more cellular natures

860
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.000
of the home with like a smaller living room, a

861
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.039
reading room, an office compared to the addition, which is

862
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.119
more of an open living dining space, right, a larger

863
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.480
space for the family to commune on a daily basis,

864
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.039
but preserve the smaller spaces in the existing home for

865
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.039
the more kind of reflective moments of life.

866
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:44.760
Do you have some of these images on this on

867
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:45.519
the website?

868
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:48.440
I do, yes, Yes, there is a rendering of the

869
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.039
house on the website. I believe it's the splash page.

870
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.360
But yeah, everybody just will get there again, but that's

871
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:56.199
Arnold ann dot com ahead.

872
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.679
Yes please, So yeah, it was kind of a you know,

873
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.960
a good charge and a challenge how to make a

874
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.840
modern facing home but yet respects the kind of historical

875
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.719
nature of its context. And as you know, Dover has

876
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.519
a lot of older kind of contextual homes, New England homes,

877
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.039
so the home needed to exude New England but yet

878
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.440
still have its kind of modern flare to it, kind

879
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.760
of representing this kind of modern family.

880
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:28.039
Right, all right, what are your I have two last questions.

881
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.280
Believe it or not, we're almost done. What are your

882
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.880
plans for the future of the firm? You know it

883
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:36.800
consistent with what you said earlier, you don't want to

884
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.480
prescribe in the next five years. But still, what are

885
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.079
you thinking in terms of the future of the firm.

886
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.960
Well, I mean where the firm is growing, projects are

887
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.280
coming in. I have some folks helping me part time.

888
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.199
I'm you know, actively trying to figure that out. You know,

889
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.599
I think there's a there's a real question for me

890
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.679
whether I go down the traditional nature off I get

891
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.360
a physical space, I open an office, I hire people.

892
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.480
That be a very real trajectory for me. But one

893
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.679
of the things that I've really cherished about this last

894
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.159
year is I get to rethink everything I did in

895
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:11.559
the past. So I am actively challenging that assumption on

896
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.400
whether I should go down that traditional path. And so

897
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.239
I'm just like literally asking myself day to day, do

898
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.199
I want to do this? Is this the right thing

899
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.639
for me and my practice and my brand. I'm trying

900
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.320
to figure out what is going to pull the best

901
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.440
parts of me out and allow them to flourish right

902
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:33.719
and not just go down the road of opening a

903
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.320
physical space and doing all the things we all always

904
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.840
did because that seems like it's the right thing. So

905
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.559
that's been pretty fun and exciting. And you know, now

906
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.920
that I have a child and stuff, I have a

907
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.400
different perspective on the world. So it's been kind of

908
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.960
cool to look at all that in a very different way.

909
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:53.719
But it is twenty twenty five and there are a

910
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.840
lot of possibilities. So I mean, there are firms that

911
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:00.800
are founded as virtual that have you know, fifty to

912
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.440
one hundred employees, So it doesn't always have to be

913
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.760
like I have one client I work with who they've

914
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.800
got the head of physical presence now they work out

915
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.079
of like a workspace or shared workspace really when they

916
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:13.920
you know, when they need it.

917
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.440
Everybody else is virtual, so it's quite possible.

918
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:18.840
Definitely exploring, all right.

919
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:23.400
He is Matthew Arnold. His website is Arnold and dot com.

920
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.559
His email is Matthew at Arnold and dot com. Matt,

921
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:29.280
this has been fun for me. I really appreciate you

922
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:29.760
being here.

923
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.320
Yeah, thank you so much. I very much appreciate you

924
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:32.960
having me here.

925
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.920
Well, thanks again, and thank you everybody for watching and listening.

926
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.719
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927
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.079
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929
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00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.920
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932
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.800
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933
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.079
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937
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.840
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938
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.800
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939
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.480
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941
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:22.440
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942
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.400
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